Topic: Episode 55: Chiana Season 4, High Impact: Katoya, Supernatural

[Brent Barrett]

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Hosted by: Kevin Bachelder and Wendy Hembrock

ScapeCast Crew: Kurt Armbruster, Kevin Bachelder, Brent Barrett, Wendy Hembrock, Sammy Mohr, Lindy Rae, Hank Shiffman, Kimberly Thompson, and Nicola Wood

Additional Writing by: Julie Marino and S.P. Kane

Additional voicing by: Alan Rae

Edited by: Brent Barrett

Running Time: 01:05:32

(00:00:33) Our hosts Kevin and Wendy welcome listeners to The ScapeCast
(00:02:52) Tralk Talk
(00:05:42) Farscape Trivia Question
(00:06:33) Gigi Edgley says hello
(00:06:58) Chiana Season Four: Innocence and Experience by Julie Marino and Nicola Wood
(00:22:25) Our hosts return
(00:23:23) ScapeCast News with Brent Barrett
    Farscape Season 4 is on iTunes!
    Gigi Edgley short film
    Ben Browder Farscape Convention DVD 2007
    Virginia Hey has free meditations online  
    Rockne’s Warehouse 13 Casts Leads
    Trailer for Vala-centric Shell Game SG1 audio drama
    May 30-June 1 Guests: Gigi Edgley and Virginia Hey
(00:26:51) Our hosts return
(00:28:22) Kimberly Thompson tells you how to contact The ScapeCast
(00:28:48) High Impact Characters: Katoya by S.P. Kane
(00:38:14) Our hosts return
(00:39:04) Promo for World Fantasy 2008
(00:39:46) Through the Looking Glass: Supernatural by Wendy Hembrock
(00:53:24) Our hosts return
(00:54:47) Question of the Week: What is one of your favorite season four D'Argo moments?
    REMEMBER!  You can answer any question of the week at any time!
(00:57:59) Our hosts return with their answers
    Next week's question: What Farscape guest character would you like to have seen become a regular character?
(00:59:51) Lindy Rae Promo for The ScapeCast
(01:00:59) Our hosts return to discuss summer television viewing
(01:01:35) Farscape Trivia Answer
(01:03:35) Mr. Hoople and Apoo tell you the word of the episode
(01:03:46) Our hosts return to close out the show

[BenMech]

Really good job with the Chiana article!

haven't gotten to the others yet.

[Crackers DO Matter]

Another great Scapecast episode !!!

I really liked the season 4 Chiana review, well done.
I think the new “High Impact” segment is going to be a good addition too !!

Keep it up … Thanks

[MadAboutScorpy]

If I were the Doctor, I'd describe this episode with only one word: Brilliant! Everything was great! I loved the character review for Chiana! Although, she was one of those characters who had to grow on me a little bit. Rygel was another but the only difference is, he was there from the very beginning and Pip came in late in season 1. I also enjoyed the insight into Katoya. I always had a feeling there was more to him than meets the eye, along with most of the other guest characters. Although, like John, I'd probably wouldn't have the patience for the mental training.

By the way, I did see the very first episode of Supernatural when it aired, and I just couldn't get into it. Apparently, there are some genre shows I can watch, others I just can't. I guess I'm very picky when it comes to good sci-fi, fantasy, horror, etc. Well, keep up the brilliant work and I look forward to hearing the next episode soon!

[Wendy Hembrock]

By the way, I did see the very first episode of Supernatural when it aired, and I just couldn't get into it. Apparently, there are some genre shows I can watch, others I just can't. I guess I'm very picky when it comes to good sci-fi, fantasy, horror, etc. 

I think it varies alot with how you come by Supernatural (or any show really).  I started watching Supernatural in early Season 3.  After about 4-5 episodes, I was totally hooked and SPN was appointment TV to watch real time (I have TiVo).   After Season 3 went on the Writers Strike gap, I went back and watched S1 and S2 on DVD. 

If I had just started from watching the S1 Pilot, and judged the show by only that, or maybe the first 3-4 episodes, the mytharc hadn't really started yet and folks might not see the potential of the show developing much of the characters.  I had a similar experience with Buffy and Farscape, where they started mainly with 'monster/alien of the week' episodes and it took a while for the arcs and potential to develop.   I started watching Farscape in mid-season 2 episodes during a SciFi marathon.  When I rewatched season 1 later, it wasn't until around TGIFA or DNA Mad Scientist where I saw the quality that I had seen in season 2 that had originally hooked me.  If I gave shows only the first 1-3 episodes to woo me into love, I'm not sure I'd have come back to Farscape or Buffy after just 3 episodes.   

With the limited time folks have these days, and so much on TV, it's going to continue to be a problem for people to adopt new TV shows (and with networks so quick to cancel them).  The good news is that DVR, DVD, BiTorrent (ahem, not advocating or condoning), Hulu, iTunes and Network streaming can help a busy audience find smaller shows.  I hope that happens for Farscape and Supernatural and BSG and lots of shows that try to tell good stories.           

[MadAboutScorpy]

A fair point, Wendy. Maybe I'll give Supernatural another chance this summer. Although, with the new season of Burn Notice on the horizon, I'm not sure how much of it I'll watch.

[Brent Barrett]

When I decided to give Supernatural another try, I just NetFlixed the first two seasons and watched them in a couple of weeks.  I didn't watch S3, so I'll do that on DVD via NetFlix as well.  I do this same sort of "watch last season all at once" thing with 24 as well. 

[Kevin Bachelder]

When I decided to give Supernatural another try, I just NetFlixed the first two seasons and watched them in a couple of weeks. 

I like to spread my watching out over a longer time period.  Don't you go into 'overload' watching so many epsiodes of the same show in such a short period of time?

I didn't watch S3, so I'll do that on DVD via NetFlix as well.  I do this same sort of "watch last season all at once" thing with 24 as well. 

Looks like season 3 of Supernatural will be available on Sep 2nd...

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Supernatural-Season-3/9669


Kevin

[Brent Barrett]

No, I don't overload.  I quite enjoy and prefer to watch serialized shows that way.  I have no patience and don't like to wait to see how a story ends. 

[Kevin Bachelder]

No, I don't overload.  I quite enjoy and prefer to watch serialized shows that way.  I have no patience and don't like to wait to see how a story ends. 

So when you watch the Lord of the Rings extended edition trilogy do you do it all in one 11:21 session?   


Kevin

[Brent Barrett]

If I could, I would.  And funny you should ask, because I did just re-watch them, but I did one movie per night (nearly 4 hours per night, which is 4-5 TV show episodes, eh? ).

Typically, I only want to rush through shows/stories I haven't seen before.  Once I've seen a show, I can watch it more slowly.  But I just hate waiting for more of a story.  Bugs the crap out of me.

Mind you, I may have watched the two seasons of SPN in two weeks, but I did appreciate and comprehend each episode.  In fact, I think it makes it easier for me to see connections and recognize characters when I watch new stuff that way.  It's more like one very long movie. 

[Kevin Bachelder]

If I could, I would.  And funny you should ask, because I did just re-watch them, but I did one movie per night (nearly 4 hours per night, which is 4-5 TV show episodes, eh? ).

I used to set aside one day each fall to watch all three in one sitting.  That was before I got involved in so many podcasts so I just don't have the time to do that anymore.  I usually pick a long weekend and do like you do with one movie per evening.  Hmmm...this weekend is Memorial Day weekend. 

Mind you, I may have watched the two seasons of SPN in two weeks, but I did appreciate and comprehend each episode.  In fact, I think it makes it easier for me to see connections and recognize characters when I watch new stuff that way.  It's more like one very long movie. 

Now that you put it that way I see your point.  I would think for complex shows like Lost it might be better that way.  I've also heard several people tell me that Battlestar Galactica is better when watched in this compressed time format.


Kevin

[Brent Barrett]

Now that you put it that way I see your point.  I would think for complex shows like Lost it might be better that way.  I've also heard several people tell me that Battlestar Galactica is better when watched in this compressed time format.

Add me to that list then.  I kinda/sorta watched BSG first-run, but there were some bits that just turned me off (anything with Baltar, basically, or Roslin combined with politics).  So I tended to skip scenes when watching or just missed entire episodes (did that a couple of times). 

One scene in S3 (second half) turned me into someone who couldn't miss an episode (although I still skipped Baltar/political scenes).  So I recently started re-watching all the episodes on DVD (four in one sitting, as I do with all shows I get that way).  It definitely plays better than it did when I'd watch it on TV first-run.

I think, for me, the reason is two-fold: 1) The usual benefit I get from watching a story all at once instead of spread out over weeks/months/years, and 2) When I would skip scenes that bored me in the first-run stuff, there was sometimes very little left that I could enjoy, so the hour felt flat for me.  Now that I am re-watching as much as I can in a given night, I feel more satisfied as a viewer, even though I do still tend to skip some scenes.

I do watch every episode I'm seeing for the first time (this applies mainly to the new BSG) all the way through, including scenes/characters that bore me or piss me off.  But on re-watches, I skip them (since I know what's in them and how long they are ).

[Brent Barrett]

(I am absolutely going to make a new set of BSG DVDs for my owbn personal use that I'll call "The Brent Cut."  They will have only the scenes/storylines/characters that I care about.    )

[Wendy Hembrock]

A fair point, Wendy. Maybe I'll give Supernatural another chance this summer. Although, with the new season of Burn Notice on the horizon, I'm not sure how much of it I'll watch. 

I am also really looking forward to the new season of Burn Notice - it's a very fun show. 

Mind you, I may have watched the two seasons of SPN in two weeks, but I did appreciate and comprehend each episode.  In fact, I think it makes it easier for me to see connections and recognize characters when I watch new stuff that way.  It's more like one very long movie. 

Yes, I find this is true for me as well.  I've been watching Torchwood and new Doctor Who this way.  I get a bunch of the new season episodes all burned from TiVo and 'waiting' and then I'll start watching in chunks every weekend until I get through them all.